tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5100747061833336603.post2248239548413698257..comments2023-05-12T01:10:00.164-07:00Comments on Scrum Central: Shaken Faith SyndromeRobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02992194211469009236noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5100747061833336603.post-83537808901465811962009-06-10T10:38:05.719-07:002009-06-10T10:38:05.719-07:00I would add to what Alan said on Stage Three:
It...I would add to what Alan said on Stage Three: <br /><br />It's a stage in which people view faith, religion and gospel as black and white. Everything can be neatly labeled "good" or "bad". Stage Three places a large amount of trust in authority figures. <br /><br />To quote Fowler, "It is a 'conformist' stage in the sense that it is acutely tuned to the expectations and judgments of significant others and as yet does not have a sure enough grasp on its own identity and autonomous judgment to construct and maintain an independent perspective."<br /><br />Alan said, "Much of cultural Utah Mormondom fits there." To be fair, being stuck at Stage Three is not a uniquely Utah Mormon phenomenon, but percentage wise it seems to most often congregate amongst them, at least among Mormons. I see it coupled very closely with Group Think.<br /><br />In terms of homosexuality, a Stage Three person would instantly label it "bad" and then reject outright both homosexuality and homosexuals.<br /><br />My comment was that a typical Stage Three stance is that everything said from the General Conference pulpit is to be taken literally as scripture and is not open to debate or personal interpretation. <br /><br />Movement from Stage Three to Stage Four, as I understand it, often begins when we awake to the painful reality that our beloved authority figures are sometimes wrong, that the world and the Gospel has shades of gray, and that being accepted by the majority is not the most important thing in life.<br /><br />When this realization is made, we become open to a wider degree of ideas, philosophies and points of view.<br /><br />Reading Fowler has given me vocabulary to describe the wide range of open mindedness and acceptance that exists within the church. Some people seem so ready to condemn anything that does not fit into their tidy view of religion, and others seem so willing and even excited to learn new ideas. The latter types most certainly, I've noticed, seem to care so little about what people think of them, and being part of the "crowd" just does not matter.<br /><br />It's fascinating.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03097754971150420640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5100747061833336603.post-30945568823526761952009-06-08T22:02:10.702-07:002009-06-08T22:02:10.702-07:00@Ned:
"Stage 3" refers to one of the st...@Ned:<br /><br />"Stage 3" refers to one of the stages of faith described by James Fowler, developmental psychologist at Candler School of Theology. Very perceptive. Just Google "Fowler stages of faith" and click on the first link you get, that'll tell you everything about it. But basically, the stages are these:<br /><br /> * Stage 0 – "Primal or Undifferentiated" faith (birth to 2 years), is characterized by an early learning of the safety of their environment (ie. warm, safe and secure vs. hurt, neglect and abuse).<br /><br /> * Stage 1 – "Intuitive-Projective" faith (ages of three to seven), is characterized by the psyche's unprotected exposure to the Unconscious.<br /><br /> * Stage 2 – "Mythic-Literal" faith (mostly in school children), stage two persons have a strong belief in the justice and reciprocity of the universe, and their deities are almost always anthropomorphic.<br /><br /> * Stage 3 – "Synthetic-Conventional" faith (arising in adolescence) characterized by conformity<br /><br /> * Stage 4 – "Individuative-Reflective" faith (usually mid-twenties to late thirties) a stage of angst and struggle. The individual takes personal responsibility for their beliefs and feelings.<br /><br /> * Stage 5 – "Conjunctive" faith (mid-life crisis) acknowledges paradox and transcendence relating reality behind the symbols of inherited systems<br /><br /> * Stage 6 – "Universalizing" faith, or what some might call "enlightenment".<br /><br />Fowler says that it's common for people to arrive at Stage 3 and never leave it. Much of cultural Utah Mormondom fits there. Hence the remark.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02992194211469009236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5100747061833336603.post-59958770307613633902009-06-08T14:51:05.697-07:002009-06-08T14:51:05.697-07:00I really liked this postI really liked this postQuiet Ponderingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11174893453724420382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5100747061833336603.post-14673868838753780582009-06-06T14:38:34.062-07:002009-06-06T14:38:34.062-07:00Question for Alan and/or Craig. What is Stage 3? A...Question for Alan and/or Craig. What is Stage 3? And what is very Stage 3?Nedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05938186985738546670noreply@blogger.com